[Openpts-users] RMs for Linux Kernel missing

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Mudassar Aslam mudas****@sics*****
Thu Oct 3 03:49:09 JST 2013


Hi again

Thanks for the reply Seiji. Link to new setup guides was helpful.

I don't want to use IntelTXT therefore fallback to GRUB-IMA is the only 
oprion left. Due to different reasons, I have now switched to CentOS 6.4 
which comes with grub legacy. I am trying to patch the grub as specified 
in the user guide. While doing so, I could find and download the SRPM 
(grub-0.97-68.el6.src.rpm) but could not find the relevant patch 
(grub-0.97-68.el6.ima-1.1.0.0.patch) from the link given in the user 
guide i.e. 
http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.jp/openpts/40294/grub-0.97-68.el6.ima-1.1.0.0.patch 
is not valid anymore. I tried to google for it but could not find the 
patch. Do you know any other place from where I can get this patch?

Or, another option is to try some older version (if that does not affect 
OpenPTS) e.g. building an older grub from CentOS5/RHEL5? or Fedora12?

Or, trying with TrustedGRUB 
(http://projects.sirrix.com/trac/trustedgrub/wiki/Documentation) if 
OpenPTS supports that?

thanks in advance.

regards

Mudassar.


On 26/09/2013 00:12, Seiji Munetoh wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Mudassar Aslam <mudas****@sics*****> wrote:
>> I am setting up OpenPTS on Fedora 19 and following the user guide for Fedora
>> 12 (section 5.2 in version 0.2.4). I have couple of questions:
> There are new setup guide for some OSs.
> https://github.com/openpts/openpts/wiki
>
>> 1. Fedora 19 comes with grub2 whereas all the help I could find so far to
>> set up measurements for IPL is about GRUB legacy (0.97 with patch). Even the
>> OpenPTS user guide describes about old grub. I don't mind if my reference
>> manifests don't have measurements for the grub. Is is necessary to have grub
>> measurements when Linux-IMA is used? If yes, is it necessary to use old grub
>> with patch or I can configure grub2 as well somehow?
> Unfortunately, the grub2 does not supports trusted boot.
> Therefore we cannot establish a transitive trust chain from CRTM to
> Linux kernel for F19.
> The alternative is DRTM by boot if your machine supports Intel TXT.
>
> In this case, you can validate the BIOS and IMA measurements (without
> trust chain) by attestation.
>
>> 2. I am asking this beacuse when I initialize the collector (ptsc -i), I get
>> level 0 and level 1 RMs (i.e. rm0.xml, rm1.xml). However, when I check the
>> status (ptsc -D), the FSM models it displays are only for BIOS (pcr0 to
>> pcr7). Which means that GRUB models (pcr4,5,8) are not generated (may be
>> because I don't have GRUB-IMA). But at the same time model and RM for pcr 10
>> (Linux-IMA) is also missing even though I have complied kernel with IMA
>> enabled and have IMA measurements in /sys/kernel/security/ima/. Is this due
>> to the missing GRUB-IMA?
> Probably, the current validation model does not support validation of
> IMA measurements without trust chain (lack of GRUB-IMA).
>
>> 3. The UML model for PCR10 in /usr/share/openpts/models is
>> ima_rhel6_pcr10.uml. Is it OK to use this model in my /etc/ptsc.conf file
>> when I am using Fedora?
> I have not tested this with F19.
> Also the validation of all IMA measurements has still some challenges.
> - Limit the number of measurements by policy to solve the performance problem.
> - Setup whitelist database
>
> --
> Seiji

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